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Generally, Wikipedia pages with multiple language versions are displayed as "114 languages", but some pages with multiple language versions are displayed as "Add languages". Why is that? This post was machine translated.--Kikikiki.aka (talk) 08:51, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
- Certain newly created or translated articles have not been linked to the corresponding group of the same subject through the multi-lingual platform of Wikidata yet, sometimes even displayed as an orphan article with no link for cross reference, therefore the option is always present on both sides, open to add or to be added with other new language versions.
- Since this is a Wikimedia forum for its related administrative or technical reports across platforms, if having a question or inquiry for the local Wikipedia language branch next time, please feel free to apply to the specified project discussion pages (such as Wikipedia talk:Village pump in Englsih for example)... or the referred article's Talk page to receive more appropriate assistance. Have a great day. Mickie-Mickie (talk) 12:53, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
- I assume this is an effort to promote translating pages. Theanswertolifetheuniverseandeverything (talk) 13:01, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
Could you make, as assist for other language project, buttons that leads to full articles and other pages from Main page at srwiki appear fully or actually not appear at all in mobile view? I would like to see properly displayed page as an ordinary reader.
Currently, I see lower part and two upward-curved small parts of it at mobile view (at desktop mobile view, I see misplaced buttons, such as 'Остали догађаји'). Editors there have been informed at help page that there is wrong output in mobile view for more than seven days and there was no response (maybe tech knowledge is the issue). The button is leading where supposed but mw-ui-button does not work properly i.e. fully at mobile view — as I see what the issue is (also, there are some classes or styles such Mediawiki quiet or nomobile that are not working properly) after other meanwhile improvements they made. I see a clearly visible button near bottom of that Main page that is imported by Mediawiki from recent time ('Језик'), so it would probably be desirable that added nomobile class after six mw-ui-buttons would be a solution, preventing completely output of the button to evade confusion and repeating similar visual elements (I think of 'Језик' button).
@Dungodung, نوفاك اتشمان, Kizule, MareBG, Sadko, Ранко Николић, Aca, Milicevic01...:
Thank you.
--5.43.66.110 (talk); 22:22, 2025-05-07 (UTC) [e]
- Technical reply: I would kindly ask you to refrain from pinging users on multiple projects for the same topic (since you already did that here). It can be considered as spam. Thank you. – Aca (talk) 22:35, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
- OK. And it would be nice if buttons at desktop view float somehow near bottom of a topic container, not sticked below container content. --5.43.66.110 (talk); 22:42, 2025-05-07 (UTC)
- srwiki has many interface admins - so ask them on that project. Also, please stop using odd signature markup, it is disruptive to the reply layout. — xaosflux Talk 23:09, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
@Vipz: You might be interested, I did not ping you among others upthere. @Xaosflux: I've already seen that and chose those who might be interested. Sorry but no. Autogenerated signature is of loose incorrect format: username (talk) time, date /very non-validly simplified/; instead of: username (talk); time, currently only valid date format yyyy-mm-dd for English because days and years are ordinal and months uncapitalized in truth). Semi-colon is for larger stop, date format already explained. --5.43.66.110 (talk); 23:24, 2025-05-07 (UTC) [e]
Велики поздрав за легенду Обсусера. --نوفاك اتشمان (talk) 23:54, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
- + Претходна, односно она стара тема: sr:Википедија:Трг/Помоћ#Дугмад на Главној страни при мобилном приказу. --نوفاك اتشمان (talk) 00:06, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
- Урађено @Obsuser: Поздрав, Обсусере, завршено све (ваљда, то јест). --نوفاك اتشمان (talk) 13:47, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
Hi Metawikipedians.
I’m here to gauge interest on a Wikipedia article idea of mine, or to see if it has already been created under a different name. I think an article that talks about scientific exploration of magick and occultism could be useful; there are pages about magick but they don’t really contain scientific exploration of the subjects.
so im curious if anyone else would like to see this article. Polkol777 (talk) 14:21, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
- This may be better asked at a particular edition of Wikipedia. Since it seems like you are a native English speaker, you may want to ask at that project, such as at w:en:WP:TEAHOUSE. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 17:32, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
- thank you! Polkol777 (talk) 18:02, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
- And just to be clear, I'm not a member of that community, so I can't speak to what the reception would be like there, etc. Let me know if there's anything I can do for you in other Wikimedia Foundation wikis than that one. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 18:55, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
- thank you! Polkol777 (talk) 18:02, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
The results of voting on the Universal Code of Conduct Enforcement Guidelines and Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C) Charter is available on Meta-wiki.
You may now submit your candidacy to serve on the U4C through 29 May 2025 at 12:00 UTC. Information about eligibility, process, and the timeline are on Meta-wiki. Voting on candidates will open on 1 June 2025 and run for two weeks, closing on 15 June 2025 at 12:00 UTC.
If you have any questions, you can ask on the discussion page for the election. -- in cooperation with the U4C,
Keegan (WMF) (talk) 22:06, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
Dear all,
This year, the term of 2 (two) Community- and Affiliate-selected Trustees on the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees will come to an end [1]. The Board invites the whole movement to participate in this year’s selection process and vote to fill those seats.
The Elections Committee will oversee this process with support from Foundation staff [2]. The Governance Committee, composed of trustees who are not candidates in the 2025 community-and-affiliate-selected trustee selection process (Raju Narisetti, Shani Evenstein Sigalov, Lorenzo Losa, Kathy Collins, Victoria Doronina and Esra’a Al Shafei) [3], is tasked with providing Board oversight for the 2025 trustee selection process and for keeping the Board informed. More details on the roles of the Elections Committee, Board, and staff are here [4].
Here are the key planned dates:
- May 22 – June 5: Announcement (this communication) and call for questions period [6]
- June 17 – July 1, 2025: Call for candidates
- July 2025: If needed, affiliates vote to shortlist candidates if more than 10 apply [5]
- August 2025: Campaign period
- August – September 2025: Two-week community voting period
- October – November 2025: Background check of selected candidates
- Board’s Meeting in December 2025: New trustees seated
Learn more about the 2025 selection process - including the detailed timeline, the candidacy process, the campaign rules, and the voter eligibility criteria - on this Meta-wiki page [link].
Call for Questions
In each selection process, the community has the opportunity to submit questions for the Board of Trustees candidates to answer. The Election Committee selects questions from the list developed by the community for the candidates to answer. Candidates must answer all the required questions in the application in order to be eligible; otherwise their application will be disqualified. This year, the Election Committee will select 5 questions for the candidates to answer. The selected questions may be a combination of what’s been submitted from the community, if they’re alike or related. [link]
Election Volunteers
Another way to be involved with the 2025 selection process is to be an Election Volunteer. Election Volunteers are a bridge between the Elections Committee and their respective community. They help ensure their community is represented and mobilize them to vote. Learn more about the program and how to join on this Meta-wiki page [link].
Thank you!
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2022/Results
[2] https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Committee:Elections_Committee_Charter
[3] https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Resolution:Committee_Membership,_December_2024
[4] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections_committee/Roles
[5] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2025/FAQ
[6] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/2025/Questions_for_candidates
Best regards,
Victoria Doronina
Board Liaison to the Elections Committee
Governance Committee
MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 03:07, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
On a conservative estimate, there's probably been more than 1000+ articles related to airlines routes, train-lines, roads and so forth as well as their associated stations/airports deleted from EN Wikipedia for essentially being unencyclopaedic. In almost all cases these were at least verifiable, they just lacked notability.
I've been told multiple times that people actually find these articles useful. Having looked at WikiTravel, this is not travel information per se so it can't be interwikied there (or at least they don't want it). It seems like there's a corpus of useful content for which there are readers out there that could usefully be undeleted and hosted somewhere, just not on EN Wikipedia. For this reason a new Wikimedia wiki covering this kind of air/road/rail/sea transport link-and-hub information seems in order.
I've looked at Create a new Wikimedia wiki but it doesn't seem very helpful about what I'd need to do to set up something like this. Any words of advice would be welcome. FOARP (talk) 09:54, 30 May 2025 (UTC)
- @FOARP: I think you're looking for Proposals for new projects —Matrix (user page (@ commons) - talk?) 09:42, 3 June 2025 (UTC)
- WikiTravel is not a Wikimedia community project; you want WikiVoyage. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:50, 6 June 2025 (UTC)
Hi,
I was asked to take a survey from a box in an English Wikipedia article saying Take a short survey and help us improve Wikipedia. I took this survey, which turned out to concern AI-generated “simple summaries” of articles on Wikimedia wikis.
I interpret this as plans to include or consider including, and build technology for such inclusion, AI-generated summaries of articles on Wikimedia wikis.
I have not found another place more appropriate for this discussion, so I am writing it here. If you know of a better place to write this, whether that is because it is specifically about these plans or this survey, or you believe it would be more helpful to the community at large to write this there, please tell me.
I want to voice the strongest opposition to these plans.
Note that I will be using “AI” here to refer to large language models and generative AI, that is, AI that works on natural language and complex human cultural artifacts to do knowledge tasks, such as OpenAI’s GPT models and LLMs in general.
The plan to include AI content in Wikimedia wikis, as it appeared in the survey, is harmful and useless. This can be said despite the fact that the survey was vague in its description of the AI content. I assume this is because the concrete form and finer details of it are still being discussed.
I can say this because it is clear from the survey and the included demonstration video "Simple summaries EN demo" on YouTube (external site) that Wikimedia Foundation or the developers of this feature are concerned or appear to be concerned about the accuracy of AI. They recognise that AI can make mistakes, and that this is a problem. I can infer this because many questions were concerned with ways to manage AI content and make it more useful and accurate.
However, due to the lacklustre factuality, neutrality and completeness of current AI models in answering knowledge questions, the amount of safeguards necessary to restrain AI to achieve an acceptable level of accuracy is so great that AI ceases to be useful. The benefit of AI is in its ability to automate these knowledge tasks. But the manual patrolling and editing of these summaries will be a similar amount of work as just writing these summaries manually.
Among the measures considered in the survey were limiting AI summaries to a smaller number of pages than all pages of the wiki, and enhanced tools for administrators and editors to review AI summaries and spot bad AI summaries. These are tasks that are already being done with human editors, and they are tasks that will not get easier using AI. Specifically the restriction of AI to a subset of pages makes it easier to instead use humans.
Wikipedia articles already have short summaries of articles for search engines and link tooltips. Any summary of this sort could be implemented in a similar way.
It is also clear that the plans intend to focus on simple language in these summaries. They are called simple summaries, after all. Such simplification is admittedly easy to mess up in many cases, promoting false analogies, and it is difficult to find the best simple phrasing for a complicated topic. But writing simple summaries of an acceptable quality, similar to that of AI, is easy for humans.
It is important to emphasise that any implementation of these plans has a high chance of producing significant harm. It is known that AI reproduces systemic biases and that the humans trust AI, even if AI is wrong. Since AI makes a shocking amount of mistakes, both simple and complex, both subtle and obvious, the potential for harm is immense. Particularly in areas like medicine, law, finance, health, and home and workplace safety, AI summaries will have enormous direct impact. Additionally, in areas like history, social studies, politics, philosophy, AI will contribute to existing patterns of abuse and misinformation, and help spread false ideas that will influence people’s fundamental world views.
But if it is assumed outright that AI is needed, it is very likely that the implementation will not be adequate. Given that AI is being considered at all, despite overwhelming signs that AI is harmful to the information landscape, I find it likely that AI is being considered not because of its virtues, but in spite of its failures, and that such immense problems with AI will be overlooked in part because of a desire to use AI, divorced from its usefulness.
Therefore, I call on the Wikimedia Foundation to immediately distance themselves from this plan and consider other uses of AI, and strongly consider abandoning any use of AI, unless significant developments in AI model accuracy are made, and explain how they will avoid the temptation to use AI due to trends in technology divorced from its actual usefulness.
—
Additionally, I want to note that, on the last slide of the AI survey, I was taken aback at how the labels for the “positive” and “negative” options on the sliders “switched places”, so to say. Before, I was asked to rate on a scale of “very good” on the left side of the screen to “very bad” on the right side of the screen. Now, I was asked to rate on a scale of “strongly disagree” on the left and “strongly agree” on the right.
I believe this unintuitive swap will contribute to respondents mistakenly selecting e.g. “strongly agree” when they meant “strongly disagree”. Because I believe that my sentiment about AI is widely shared at least among Wikipedia editors, I expect that this will lead to a skew in the data towards a positive sentiment towards AI summaries. I think it is important that this is considered when evaluating the survey data. Theanswertolifetheuniverseandeverything (talk) 12:00, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- There is more discussion of this than anyone could ever want to read, at en:Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Simple summaries: editor survey and 2-week mobile study and other venues linked from there. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:49, 6 June 2025 (UTC)
This wiki does not make it easy to find the equivalent of an administrator's noticeboard.
User:Ahmjahangir is spamming a request to have an article created, here and on multiple other projects. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:47, 6 June 2025 (UTC)
- All the sources are from Canadian news. There are editorial and interviews. Honorable MP's Facebook page also shared. Please engage a volunteer who is a Canadian. Do not use judge without proper verification and do not quote machine language. Ahmjahangir (talk) 12:55, 6 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Ahmjahangir: Kindly refrain from making such request on multiple wikis. This maybe considered as cross-wiki spam. – Phương Linh (T · C · CA · L · B) 12:58, 6 June 2025 (UTC)
- Well noted with thanks. I will not request any other onward. My concern was only whether a volunteer take my request or not. Thanks for being on my part. You can verify and perform necessary due diligence. Please feel free to reach out if you have any further questions. Ahmjahangir (talk) 13:02, 6 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Ahmjahangir: Kindly refrain from making such request on multiple wikis. This maybe considered as cross-wiki spam. – Phương Linh (T · C · CA · L · B) 12:58, 6 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Pigsonthewing: Warnings given here and on talk page. For admin noticeboard, see WM:RFH. – Phương Linh (T · C · CA · L · B) 12:58, 6 June 2025 (UTC)
- Please be positive and do necessary due diligence. If you have any allergy don't involve or comment. Let another person to take care who understand. Ahmjahangir (talk) 13:04, 6 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Ahmjahangir: Do note that this is a public space and everyone can comment. – Phương Linh (T · C · CA · L · B) 13:05, 6 June 2025 (UTC)
- I do appreciate. But we to be more inclusive. Should not hurt others. I am sorry if my words hurt anyone. Ahmjahangir (talk) 13:09, 6 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Ahmjahangir: Do note that this is a public space and everyone can comment. – Phương Linh (T · C · CA · L · B) 13:05, 6 June 2025 (UTC)
- Please be positive and do necessary due diligence. If you have any allergy don't involve or comment. Let another person to take care who understand. Ahmjahangir (talk) 13:04, 6 June 2025 (UTC)
- Meta-Wiki administrator requests may be placed at Meta:Requests for help from a sysop or bureaucrat. We have redirects to that page from Project:Administrators' noticeboard, Project:AN and Administrators' noticeboard, and interwiki crosslinks via d:Q3907246. I've added another redirect at Administrator's noticeboard and added the term "administrator" in addition to "sysop" at the primary help directory. Besides that spelling, is there more of your user story of how it is hard to find this help page? We may be able to improve the process more. — xaosflux Talk 13:15, 6 June 2025 (UTC)
- btw who sign this, Xaosflux? —— Eric Liu（Talk） 13:41, 6 June 2025 (UTC)
- Ooops missed a "~". Fixed. — xaosflux Talk 13:42, 6 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Ericliu1912: It's Xaos but they accidentally entered extra "~". – Phương Linh (T · C · CA · L · B) 13:42, 6 June 2025 (UTC)
- okay no problem XD —— Eric Liu（Talk） 13:45, 6 June 2025 (UTC)
- btw who sign this, Xaosflux? —— Eric Liu（Talk） 13:41, 6 June 2025 (UTC)
Most links about donating money to the Wikimedia Foundation redirect to the domain donate.wikimedia.org which is not a wiki. I would like to post questions/proposals about payment methods. What is the appropriate forum for that? Lieven Smits (talk) 20:23, 6 June 2025 (UTC)
- The donation system is not run by volunteers, but by the Foundation. You may contact them directly at: donatewikimediaorg — xaosflux Talk 20:30, 6 June 2025 (UTC)
- (Irrelevant technical detail: donate.wikimedia.org is actually a wiki, although they hide the wiki aspects in the standard donate UI) * Pppery * it has begun 23:03, 6 June 2025 (UTC)